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		<title>Comment on Letter to Access Copyright about Internet Copying Not qualifying for Reprography fees for Artists in Canada...</title>
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			<name>GroveCanada</name>
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		<updated>2010-06-23T17:11:25Z</updated>
		<published>2010-06-23T17:11:25Z</published>
		<content type="html">-here is something I wrote in response to the subject of making reproductions...as a thought, an afterthought, perhaps digital works should fall into this category...(things you choose to publish online...)(this was in the LinkedIn group Art Business)...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact, the traditional model was that the original was so desirable that making prints was of necessity, because so many people wanted the same image...It is not about reputation, it is about having one painting that is so good that demand is too high...Beginners can have that happen to them too...Making prints because your originals aren't moving is a bit like putting the cart before the horse...But everyone is welcome to make their choices, &amp; that is why I find life &amp; art still interesting...It is often the mistakes people make that make them more endearing...&amp; believe me Steve, there are more than two points of view on this subject...&lt;br /&gt;  Generally speaking, I find the plethora of reproductions on the market distressing, not to mention the ones with faked signatures, combined with the fact that most of these things are actually works of craft by a printer &amp; his or her machine, not at all a work by the artist...&lt;br /&gt;  There is a print on display at Canadian Tire at Yonge &amp; Davenport in Toronto, signed "by Tom Thomson" with the title "The Jack Pine" &amp; numbered 27/700...Tom Thomson never made reproductions before he died, &amp; he rarely signed anything, not even his originals...I spoke to the manager about this, (since it is for their children's charity Jumpstart), an auction, &amp; he suggested the word "by" allowed for the forgery...Teri Franks of Fine Art Registry.com just won a huge court case in Michigan for outing Park West gallery's practice of selling common Dali prints on Royal carribean Cruise ships which had been fake signed "Dali" at the bottom, which raised their selling price from 100 dollars each to a thousand dollars each...It is turf fraught with corruption &amp; bad intent, &amp; money should not be the top intention for any artist-only because they will make less with that goal in mind...(The more you try for that, the less you seem to get...)&lt;br /&gt;  Sincerely Sari Grove</content>
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		<title>Comment on Letter to Access Copyright about Internet Copying Not qualifying for Reprography fees for Artists in Canada...</title>
		<link href="http://blog.grovecanada.fm/2010/05/23/letter-to-access-copyright-about-internet-copying-not-qualifying-for-reprography-fees-for-artists-in-canada.aspx#comment-3247816" rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" />
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			<name>GroveCanada</name>
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		<updated>2010-06-23T16:42:49Z</updated>
		<published>2010-06-23T16:42:49Z</published>
		<content type="html">Hello, this is Sari Grove writing: I DID get a response from Access Copyright, &amp;, because they seem to want to answer online, in fairness, I am adding here what their response to my letter was...Of course, publishing someone's email comments is borderline, but I feel that they want their answer heard so I am putting it here...If, of course, that is problematic for Access Copyright, please tell me, &amp; I, of course, will unpublish their response here...My feeling on the subject is, that opening up this discussion online can only help the matter, since there are so many artists in Canada who are not even aware that there is an issue...Debate can be good for good things... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hello Sari: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Most of the revenues associated with Payback are related to paper copying licences and that is why your digital works are not included in the Payback program this year.  We know that many of our creators and publishers are creating born digital works and we hope to licence this for them in the future.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Thank you for your inquiry.</content>
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		<title>Comment on One scam ...Many permutations?</title>
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		<updated>2010-06-17T17:12:19Z</updated>
		<published>2010-06-17T17:12:19Z</published>
		<content type="html">&lt;div&gt;here are three images, from my walk to Woolfitt's tonight...Woolfitt's carries Eco-House dammar varnish which is made with NO turpentine, &amp;amp; it is Canadian, &amp;amp; I love it!&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;But Woolfitt's is far, Dovercourt &amp;amp; Queen, wow what a long walk-next time I'm bringing my bike...&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;A good Starbuck's at the corner of Dovercourt &amp;amp; Queen though, phew a venti iced cappucino uummm...(&amp;amp; some of that instant to take home)...&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Love walking home up Dovercourt...So much easier than walking through cement &amp;amp; city...The shabbier the houses, the nicer the front garden, wow, spectacular rose bushes climbing all kooky &amp;amp; crimson, two long haired patchy cats just hanging out between the homes...&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;  I don't really like graffiti...I do often like murals...Here is the difference the way I see it...Graffiti is done WITHOUT permission...Murals are done WITH permission...Funny how it so affects my perception of the work...One is vandalism, the other often a thing of beauty...&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;  here are two murals, one on Queen west, the other on Bloor st. west.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;  The last image is a neat little walnut cake place on Bloor west, 656 Bloor west, Hodo is the word for walnut in Korean, the cakes are literally walnut shaped exactly &amp;amp; come in mashed potato filling or red bean filling...I had red bean filling...Good!!! Maybe for my next art show...Easy to eat &amp;amp; cheap &amp;amp; fun, plus walnut themed for my new walnut oil paintings...(walnuts are tree nuts &amp;amp; rarely allergenic to ground nut allergy sufferers-  peanuts &amp;amp; linseed or flaxseed are born in the ground- they do crossover ...&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://www.arikiart.com/articles/tax_deductible_donations_of_art.htm"&gt;http://www.arikiart.com/articles/tax_deductible_donations_of_art.htm&lt;/a&gt; a link to American IRS tax write offs for art...ya the loophole is still there...
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                        here is a link to the art donation tax loophole in the States... &lt;br /&gt;
                        You get an appraised value on the art you own...Doesn't matter what you paid...You donate the art to an IRS approved institution after holding it for 12 months. You get a tax receipt worth the total appraised value...Even if you paid bubkes...(nothing)... &lt;br /&gt;
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                        &lt;a href="http://www.theartnewspaper.com/articles/Artists-should-have-same-tax-deductions-as-collectors-when-donating-works-of-art/16501" target="_blank" class="postlink" style="color: #006699; text-decoration: none; "&gt;http://www.theartnewspaper.com/articles/Artists-should-have-same-tax-deductions-as-collectors-when-donating-works-of-art/16501&lt;/a&gt; a link to an article about how artists should get the same tax break as collectors, a fair market value deduction not just a materials cost deduction, on donated art... &lt;br /&gt;
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                        The flaw in the art law is this: If a dealer pays an artist 300 dollars for a painting, then the work is now worth, at market, 300 dollars, not more... &lt;br /&gt;
                        Until someone pays more money for that same painting, it should not be appraised at a number any higher than what was paid for it initially... &lt;br /&gt;
                        Why Not? because appraising the work at a higher value than what the market has paid for it is fraudulent...It is attempting to predict the future, a future that does not exist yet...Until cash is paid for that painting by a collector, the market has not established a new value... &lt;br /&gt;
                        The flaw is in art law...Appraisers should not be able to create prices for works based on speculation... &lt;br /&gt;
                        If an artist can only deduct materials costs when donating a work of art, by the same principle, an art collector should only be able to deduct materials costs when donating- materials costs to a collector are how much the collector ACTUALLY Paid for the work...Not some made-up number by an in-house appraiser who is on the take anyway... &lt;br /&gt;
                        If Alex Perez's work sold for 300 dollars to PWG, then that is how much that work is worth...Until such time as someone pays more money for that same work, it should not &amp;amp; cannot be appraised for more than 300 dollars...That is fraudulent... &lt;br /&gt;
                        The flaw is with appraisals that are different from buying &amp;amp; selling prices...If a work has sold for 300 dollars, then how can anyone say it is worth more???It is not worth more, it is worth 300 dollars. &lt;br /&gt;
                        There should be absolutely NO discrepancy between selling price &amp;amp; appraisal prices- this is where fraud rules &amp;amp; lives...In made-up jacked up appraisal prices. &lt;br /&gt;
                        Appraisers know this, &amp;amp; those who don't should. Those who know &amp;amp; still break the rules should go to jail. &lt;br /&gt;
                        The PWG fiasco could not have succeeded without this false belief system, the system that says a work of art could be worth more than what you paid, even though you were unwilling to pay more...&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="gensmall" style="font-size: 10px; color: #666666; "&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>Comment on Response to Fine Art Registry newsletter...</title>
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			<name>GroveCanada</name>
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		<updated>2010-06-04T16:41:11Z</updated>
		<published>2010-06-04T16:41:11Z</published>
		<content type="html">apologiZe...not apologies...&lt;br /&gt;THANK not think...</content>
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		<title>Comment on Response to Fine Art Registry newsletter...</title>
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		<updated>2010-06-04T16:38:46Z</updated>
		<published>2010-06-04T16:38:46Z</published>
		<content type="html">I have since elevated my position to comprehend that terrorists are victims themselves whose families are being held hostage in their country of origin &amp; as such their actions in the United States &amp; Canada must be seen as in fact the actions of VICTIMS as opposed to the actions of perpetrators...As such, I stand behind Fine Art registry's position of trying to help these VICTIMS out of the mess they are in &amp; try to also help them to lead a normal honest tax paying settled life...I apologies for my above statements if they seem harsh, but harsh is a stepping stone to rational thinking &amp; I think FAR (FIne Art Registry) for allowing me to see things on a higher level...</content>
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		<title>Comment on How to ruin someone's life &amp; business, buy their property, destroy it, then build a Condo Flipping Scam, ruining your local City....</title>
		<link href="http://blog.grovecanada.fm/2009/07/16/how-to-ruin-someones-life--business-buy-their-property-destroy-it-then-build-a-condo-flipping-scam-ruining-your-local-city.aspx#comment-3182454" rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" />
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		<updated>2010-06-04T16:27:02Z</updated>
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		<content type="html">This comment from &lt;a href="http://www.kikidu.de" target="_self"&gt;www.Kikidu.de &lt;/a&gt; was the first comment that really understood the premise of the post &amp;amp; then contributed a new &amp;amp; thoughtful addition as to how commercial tenants lose their business &amp;amp; commercial landlords can re-takeover the property, jack up rents, or sell or demolish to build more high rise tenement apartment buildings too quickly so the concrete will crack in 10 years because they were built too quickly...Bravo Kikidu.De !!! Denmark wins for best comment on this post so far...(I didn't publish the others- not funny &amp;amp; didactic enough)...So Kikidu.de gets the link on my blog...Bravo Kikidu.de</content>
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		<title>Comment on How to ruin someone's life &amp; business, buy their property, destroy it, then build a Condo Flipping Scam, ruining your local City....</title>
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			<name>kikidu</name>
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		<updated>2010-06-04T06:19:48Z</updated>
		<published>2010-06-04T06:19:48Z</published>
		<content type="html">Keep stealing large items from the company unnoticed until the business loses time &amp;amp; money &amp;amp; hope &amp;amp; feels unhappy...</content>
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		<title>Comment on How to ruin someone's life &amp; business, buy their property, destroy it, then build a Condo Flipping Scam, ruining your local City....</title>
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			<name>Discount Canon Printer Ink</name>
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		<updated>2010-05-14T09:13:32Z</updated>
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		<content type="html">Pretty good post. I just stumbled upon your blog and wanted to say that I have really enjoyed reading your blog posts.Any way Ill be subscribing to your feed and I hope you post again soon</content>
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		<title>Comment on How to ruin someone's life &amp; business, buy their property, destroy it, then build a Condo Flipping Scam, ruining your local City....</title>
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			<name>Electronics</name>
			<uri>http://ezyelectronics.com.au</uri>
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		<updated>2010-05-14T09:07:54Z</updated>
		<published>2010-05-14T09:07:54Z</published>
		<content type="html">I found your website perfect for my needs. It contains wonderful and helpful posts. I have read most of them and got a lot from them. To me, you are doing the great work. Carry on this. work at home In the end, I would like to thank you for making such a nice website.</content>
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		<title>Comment on How to ruin someone's life &amp; business, buy their property, destroy it, then build a Condo Flipping Scam, ruining your local City....</title>
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			<name>IT Outsourcing</name>
			<uri>http://www.computersupport.com/</uri>
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		<updated>2010-05-14T09:04:59Z</updated>
		<published>2010-05-14T09:04:59Z</published>
		<content type="html">Do you always write this stuff, over you head.. Great article! Tell me more, let it come.. You are master. :D</content>
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